Backstage at the Troubadour, crammed into a narrow dressing room,
Adam, Mark and Shawn Stern sit among the ashtrays, girlfriends,
hair gel and plastic tubs of lukewarm beer to discuss the Better
Youth Organization, the group the three brothers founded in
1982 as a watershed for Southern California's new, and often misunderstood
punk scene.
According
to the official "company line," the BYO was founded two decades
ago as a reaction against police violence, outside exploitation
and a general negative outlook held against the punk/alternative
music scene in Los Angeles. "But it was really just a way to get
kids together, put on shows and, in the end, help try and create
some semblance of a scene," Shawn explains between gulps of his
cocktail. "It was all built around having fun."
BYO and the Sterns received publicity early on, perhaps most notably
in Peter Stuart and Adam Small's landmark 1982 punk rockumentary
Another State of Mind. Interestingly, while the hairs have perhaps
grayed a bit, the Stern brothers' outlook and philosophy towards
BYO, and their band, Youth Brigade, haven't changed a hell of a
lot in two decades. They still retain a youthful exuberance, tainted
perhaps with a little healthy cynicism from living twenty years
of punk rock and seeing all of its ups and downs. But the trio remains
hopeful for what the future holds.
"We never thought that we'd still be playing music and doing this
when we were thirty, much less forty," remarks Mark Stern, looking
suddenly pensive, as if realizing he has dated himself.
Shawn pipes in. "Yeah, who knew, but fuck, it's all we know and
we still love it as much as we did when we were twenty. How many
people can say that about what THEY do for a living?"
Over
the last twenty years, BYO
has grown to become a respected record label, with a repertoire
of bands that includes The Unseen, Kosher, Filthy Thieving Bastards,
Welt, Pistol Grip, Pinhead Circus, Leatherface, and Manic Hispanic.
In 2001, BYO began issuing a series of "split" records, each featuring
two bands covering a selection of the other's songs. Youth Brigade
and the Swingin' Utters both did a stint, and punk rock juggernauts
Rancid and NOFX recently gave this formula their own take for the
latest issue of the Split Series.
When asked about the mission and vision of BYO, the Sterns downplay
the business end. "It's always been about having fun," notes Shawn.
"Twenty years ago we just wanted to do a record and at that time
there weren't any other options other than to do it yourself. That
attitude has always been central to BYO. We feel that if we can
help give bands a start, and give them a foundation on which they
can grow and develop, then we have contributed something."
Over the past two decades, BYO and the Sterns have weathered the
rollercoaster ride that the punk genre has experienced. Both Adam
and Mark left Youth Brigade for a time to help found the Royal Crown
Revue, which, for a time, became the cornerstone of a swing resurgence.
But with that now run its course, the brothers are back doing their
band and their label and seem hopeful for what the future holds.
"As with any music that gets popular for a time," explains Shawn,
"the big labels always try to get a piece for themselves and water
it down or twist it for public consumption. Sadly, in the end, it
always comes down to money. We have always tried to just let the
genre be what it is."
All three brothers feel emphatic that punk is still relevant today,
perhaps even more so in the wake of political and economic upheavals
of late. "Punk has always been about being an individual, and that
hasn't changed," notes Mark. "If anything, as the genre matures
and has to compete against so many other outside corporate influences,
it's actually harder for kids today than it was for us."
"But,"
injects Shawn, "there are a lot more resources available. The internet
has completely changed everything. And if anything, technology has
become a great equalizer. Nowadays, if someone wants to do something
themselves - put out a record, promote a show, start a label - there
are a ton of resources that can make that happen. There really isn't
an excuse anymore of why kids today can't do what we've been doing
for twenty years. If you really believe in something, and have heart
and soul behind it - anything is possible."
While Shawn pontificates the idealism of punk, his brothers note
that BYO is still a business. "We all have families now," Mark proclaims,
"and while it's always going to be important to remain true to the
ideals on which BYO is founded, we have employees to look after
and, for some of us, children to support, and you can't do that
without some sort of business sense."
Shawn has great hopes for the latest split record featuring Rancid
and NOFX, and to be sure, the notoriety of both bands will certainly
help the bottom line, but the brothers note that getting rich has
never been on the list of BYO priorities. "We just want BYO to keep
doing what it has always done - put out records, develop bands,
and put on shows. No one's getting rich here. But if we can take
an up and coming band and help them put out a polished record, and
give them the support they need to go out and play for the kids,
then we've done our job. That attitude has paid our rent for twenty
years, and I hope that it will continue to for another twenty."
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